Renzo7 posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 12:33pm

can't review from chapter 3, so i'll do it here... really cruel keeping us in such suspense. this is very good work, though lapfta was much better in my opinion.
one thing, shouldn't harry be so mad and concerned that he shouldn't be making jokes at this time?
I'm sure the new law won't apply, though, all's happened outside the uk, so the law shouldn't apply to harry's family, since they live on another "country"

BJH posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 12:02pm

So what is Harry's next step? I know Hermione's: Since the five live on the island now they are no longer residents of the British Isles and therefore not subject to the law. Furthermore, if Lorelie was not born there then she is not a citizen of the British Isles and not a subject of the Ministry.

Harry needs to just kill her and get it over with. Whoever succeeds her will be much easier to deal with.

BJH

BJH posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 11:59am

Now that was a clever little ploy by Umbridge. Declare the child a ward of the Ministry and therefore she isn't a victim of a kidnapping. Did she by any chance backdate the law to just prior to the kidnapping?

Nice story. So far all action and no smut but we can't have everything now can we?

BJH

ShadeHawk posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 11:46am

First of all, what gives that Ministry of Magic makes laws? Government (and ministry) is executive arm, not legislative. Executive Orders cannot bring new laws.

Second, one of the most sacred rules of the law is "lex retro non agit" that law doesn't act on the past, it affects only future events.

So, I guess there will be war on Ministry of Magic, and perhaps first succesfull goblin isurrection...

Tanaxanth posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 11:26am

Oh this is going to be bad....

The Hessian posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 11:19am

People will be finding pieces of Umbridge for years to come. They might even find some on other planets.

MaryJane6707 posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 11:00am

Man, this is really going to get ugly!! I can't believe that woman is still around and still causing so much trouble for the Potters. I can't wait to see what you do to her!

j posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 9:30am

Name: Jamey
Commented on: Sunday 5th November 2006 4:57pm
Come to think of it - ex post facto laws are specifically forbidden by the US Constitution (though Congress has gotten around that on a number of occasions, and will again, I'm sure). Do the British have that protection?

No the last time that I checked, the British do not have that protection. Something law that allows the parliament to pass any law it wishes.
So in theory, there was nothing illegal about what Umbridge. Morally wrong yes, illegal no.
And I still stand by my last review

j posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 9:14am

PLease tell me that Umbridge will die a most painful death.
So far I love the story, my heart dropped a little when I read the executive order

liquidfyre posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 8:30am

OH shit she is dead.

keep up the updates man this is great stuff and i love the posting speed heh

Jamey posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 7:57am

And now I see where the title of this fic comes from. The Ministry will have to undergo the fires of purification, before arising from the ashes pure once more. And Umbitch is going to be one of the ashes left behind.

Come to think of it - ex post facto laws are specifically forbidden by the US Constitution (though Congress has gotten around that on a number of occasions, and will again, I'm sure). Do the British have that protection?

Killua posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 7:45am

Well you really have me hating Umbitch right now, so congrats on making me feeling strongly about your story.
But I agree with other reviewers, the Potters reaction to the kidnapping is not strong enough and as corrupt as the government may be it's not really believable that Umbridge was able to pass a law like that.
And well, I really really hope that you are not planing on making the girls marry other wizards (like your superOOC Snape, creeeeepy...) to circumvent the law and keep the kids. And then suddenly develop real feelings. Tell me it's not one of those lame stories.

Crys posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 7:17am

*sigh* Simplify everything, and just assassinate her.

Bones would probably even help.

Side effect, Harry just lost his parental rights to Lorilei (sp?)

Hmm. Well, okay, Harry needs to stay married to Hermione. So he and she keeps their kids. All other kids stay with their magical grandparents. Problem there is that none of them will likely be "proper" families, either.

*growl* The more I think about this, the more I feel like throwing up at Umbitch's actions.

Good news is that this story is good enough to get that kind of reaction out of me. Kudos for that, Kins.

Jeremy DuCharme posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 6:39am

Dumbledore is firmly in Harry's corner, and he is still the head of the Wizengamot, right? Could they tell Umbitch that her latest decree is way out of line and try to remove her? Based on the British system effectively declaring open war on the wizard that slew the last Dork Lord and his family HAS to be grounds for a no confidance vote. As in we have no confidance in your survival past sundown.

Seems I was too hasty in declaring Draco the winner of this year's Darwin Award.

Mikkun posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 6:25am

Oh SH*T, I think Dolores Umbridge won't be living for long in your fic. I'm guessing she'll be dead, or be in Azkaban before you can say 'Lorelei' she has gone too far, and as the Potter clan is so protective of their young, she won't get out of this with out the 'appropriate punishments'

William Fowler posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 6:22am

OH, I just thought of something...

Harry's the heir of, like, two founders or something, and Susan, I believe, is another heir, so their son/daughter, is a Tri-heir. Who wants to bet that she's doing this to take control of Hogwarts?

William Fowler posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 6:12am

Umm...

I'm guessing this law is to make little Lorelei part of the Umbridge family, thereby hitting at Harry even more than she has in the past?

Do I see Harry not liking this law, and therefore, blowing up the Ministry for Magic?

Do I see Dolores Umbitch not liking what happens next?

Do I see Amelia Bones, who is going to be affected by this, not happy?

Yes... yes... and... hell yes.

mike bates posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 5:59am

lol i predict fight against umbitch in future

merf425 posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 4:56am

I'm glad Bill wasn't in on it, but that last bit is terrible! I mean, it's good plot-wise, and clever, but it sucks for the actual characters. (Not that I think Harry will follow it, but yeah.)

rptokonic posted a comment on Sunday 5th November 2006 4:46am

Very nice, very nice indeed. Have him display her head on tower bridge that should be appropriate. And you better get writing if you want Harry to blow up the Ministry before the day is over. It is the fifth after all.